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Two Messiahs - Part II


This is how the Christians have tried to justify the prophesied concept of 'two Messiahs' through combining the two Promised Ones into one; according to M. P. L. Dunteman:




"The expectation of the Messiah, Son of David, became a longing for the appearance of a future figure. The Israelites could see the descendant of David in each generation, but he was not anointed (Messiah for his generation) nor did he reign, because of the curse of Jehoiachin. How could this dilemma be resolved? How could one be born in the royal line of David and inherit the rights to the Throne of David without being a descendant of Jehoiachin and inheriting the curse also? ... The answer is found in the three origins of Yeshua (Jesus) of Nazareth. In Matthew, chapter 1, we find the genealogy of Yosef (Joseph), the legal, but not physical father of Yeshua. This genealogy is the royal line of Israel … . Thus, Jesus inherited the rights to the Throne of David through Joseph, as the firstborn in the family. Since he was not a physical descendant of Joseph, Jesus did not inherit the curse of Jehoiachin and really could sit upon the Throne of David … . The second part of the origin of Jesus is, the Holy Spirit … . God wanted to be the King of Israel again … . At the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, God became a man and the Lord becomes the King of Israel again ... . Thus we see that the Messiah is not a son of Adam, but rather the Son of God … . The Suffering Messiah finished all of his priestly work with only one sacrifice … . The third line of the descendance of Jesus was from Mary, his mother. In Luke 3 we have Jesus' genealogy from David, but not the royal line of descent from Jehoiachin, which was cursed. The humanity of Jesus came from Mary, not Joseph. Human in the sense of weakness, rather than descent from Adam, which would include sin. In some groups, Mary is venerated for her part in the birth of Jesus, but we must remember that she was also a sinner, daughter of Adam … . Because she was a woman she did not pass her sin nature to her son. Neither does she merit the title "Godbearer," given to her by some, as Jesus was already going around as God before He was born of Mary … . One night, about 2000 years ago in Bethlehem, all three lines converged, and God became King of Israel again ... . The nation of Israel has been humiliated, hated, and rejected by the other nations for thousands of years now, but at the end Jesus will place the nation of Israel over all the other nations … ."


The aforementioned statements, clearly summarize the Christian beliefs. As we see, they confess that due to contradictions and discrepancies in the Bible, they had a dilemma to solve; in order for Jesus to meet the mostly distorted Bible prophecies of the two Messiahs, they needed a Jesus who was a descendant of David through Jehoiachin without being from Jehoiachin and therefore inheriting the curse of Jehoiachin!!! According to Bible, Jehoiachin was a descendant of David but based on book of Jeremiah, was cursed by God and on the one hand, his descendants could not have become the Messiah, but on the other hand the Messiah had to be his descendant!!! So by assigning three different identities to Jesus, i.e. one person with three entities, they thought that they have solved some of the inconsistency problems of the Bible, and therefore created a multi-personality Jesus!!!


In the first step of justification, they say that, the multi-personality Jesus (PBUH) who as the Messiah had to be the descendant of David, became the descendant of the royal blood of Jehoiachin through Joseph who according to them, married Mary while she was already carrying Jesus; How could Jesus be the descendant of the royal blood without being the physical son of Joseph, is very interesting, and the justification continues that Jesus while inheriting the royal blood through Joseph, did not inherit the curse because Joseph was not really his father!!! So very convenient, inheriting the royalty but not the curse, without any blood relationship whatsoever!!!


Then secondly, the multi-personality Jesus was also, both god and the son of god; notice they say, "At the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, God became a man", and also they say, "not a son of Adam, but rather the Son of God", therefore Jesus was both god who became a man, and also son of god, in addition to being the descendant of Joseph's forefathers but not the son of Joseph!!! All this was because god had previously become so weak that he had lost his lordship of the world and wanted to some how get it back from his own creations!!! So god becomes the weak and suffering Messiah, and is so weak that he is killed by his own creations, by those from whom, he wanted to get his usurped lordship back!!! We have a question from the Christians, is such a weak, suffering and dying god whose lordship was taken away from him by his own creations and therefore needed to think of a scheme to get it back, is the Omnipotent Creator of the entire Existence?!!!


Thirdly, the multi-personality Jesus -whose real mother was Mary - was a human, but "The humanity of Jesus came from Mary, not Joseph. Human in the sense of weakness, rather than descent from Adam, which would include sin." So, god who was the son of god who was the descendant of Joseph's forefathers but not the son of Joseph, was also the son of Mary the descendant of Adam, but not the son of Adam!!! Here it is noteworthy to mention that, Jews and Christians believe that because of the 'Original Sin', all children of Adam and Eve are born sinners; i.e. all babies are born sinful and that is why for instance, they baptize babies at birth, to cleanse their inherited sins!!! The following is from the book of genesis of the Old Testament in the Bible, which is believed by both Jews and Christians (the first five books in the Old Testament of the Bible of the Christians, are the Torah of the Jews, which the book of genesis is one of those five books):


[genesis, 3:1-6] “Now the serpent was more subtile than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden. And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: … she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.”


So according to the current Bible, Eve committed the 'Original Sin', and with her, Adam and all humanity fell, and therefore she was the reason for sinfulness of the entire human race, i.e. humankind inherited that original sin!!! This way of thinking that women are unclean (based on the distorted concept of the 'original sin'), is observed all over the Bible; ironically many today who are the adherents to this Bible are talking about women's rights and criticizing Islam, while in Islam this whole concept is fully rejected; firstly Hazrat Hawwa -Eve- (PBUH) is absolutely not considered as the source of human sins, secondly every one is born sin-free and then each person will be judged based on their actions as responsible adults who freely decide to either commit sins or not. Let us look at a few of the Bible statements which clearly state the very harmful distorted view in regard to women:


"Man that is born of woman is of few days, and full of trouble...Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? There is not one." [Job 14:1 & 4]

"Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me." [Psalm 51:5]

And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” [1 Timothy 2:14]


In addition, some Christians criticize Catholic Christians for considering Mary as "Mother of god" because, "she was also a sinner, daughter of Adam", and not because it is totally illogical to believe that the Unlimited Creator God was born of a limited creation!!! They continue, "Because she (Mary) was a woman, she did not pass her sin nature to her son (Jesus)"; i.e. here, they are saying that Mary as the mother did not pass the inherited sin to Jesus her son, while they consider the entire human race as born sinners because of the 'Original Sin' of Eve, their mother!!!


Also, very interestingly, M. P. L. Dunteman has said, "Jesus was already going around as God before He was born of Mary"!!! We feel that, this statement deserves no comment!!!


At this point, we cordially invite you to read an interesting debate between Imam Reza (PBUH) and a Christian scholar of his time, in this site [kindfather.com]:

"A debate between a Christian scholar and Imam Reza (PBUH) - I"

"A debate between a Christian scholar and Imam Reza (PBUH) - II"

"A debate between a Christian scholar and Imam Reza (PBUH) - III"


The reason the Jews insist that the Savior of the Last Days must be of them, is because they consider the nation of Israel as superior and therefore all other races and nations must be subservient to them, and that is why they do not accept any one into Judaism and thus their number is only millions among the billions of humans on earth; similarly, the Christians insist on Jesus as also being the "kingly" Messiah and savior, in the Last Days because they too, consider the nation of Israel as superior, but they believe that the Israelites will repent as soon as Jesus returns, and will join Christians to rule the world, as Mr. Dunteman has mentioned: "but at the end Jesus will place the nation of Israel over all the other nations".


To be continued